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Larry_Home
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 7315 Location: Harrisburg, PA USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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The source is the Frontier Centre for Public Policy (apparently Canadian):
Here's the Publications page. _________________ The future ain't what it used to be. (Yogi Berra) |
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Lorianne_W
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2727
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Charles
It would be interesting to see a similar graph plotted against the average temps for the entire time period (not just 20th C average temps) but I haven't been able to find such a thing. _________________ I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. __ Michelangelo |
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Larry_Home
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 7315 Location: Harrisburg, PA USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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What I find most interesting is a series of graphs showing temps covering hundreds of thousands of years, based on core drillings. The longer the time span you get, the less visible the so-called "hockey stick" becomes. In geological terms, we are in a relatively warm interglacial period that is the inevitable prelude to the next Ice Age.
The "big" bumps of AGW are an artifact of how the data are presented (and fudged), not of climate.
Personally, I hope and pray we are beginning another MWP. People thrive when it's warm, except possibly in Florida and parts of CA. I would happily trade most of those two states for higher average temperatures, a boon to agriculture and human activity. _________________ The future ain't what it used to be. (Yogi Berra) |
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CharlesWT
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 1741 Location: Plano, Texas
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Based on Greenland ice cores, this interglacial period may have the most stable and predictable climate and weather of any interglacial period in human existence. A possible explanation for why agriculture and civilization didn't occur at an earlier date. |
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Lorianne_W
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2727
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia's hockey stick wars
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/12/23/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-hockey-stick-wars.aspx
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Since my Saturday column described how Wikipedia editors have been feverishly rewriting climate history over much of the decade, fair-minded Wikipedians have been doing their best to correct the record. No sooner than they remove gross distortions, however, than the distortions are replaced. William Connolley, a Climategate member and Wikipedia's chief climate change propagandist, remains as active as ever.
How does Wikipedia work and how do Connolley and his co-conspirators exercise control? Take Wikipedia's page for Medieval Warm Period, as an example. In the three days following my column's appearance, this page alone was changed some 50 times in battles between Connolley's crew and those who want a fair presentation of history. |
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Larry_Home
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 7315 Location: Harrisburg, PA USA
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plaasjaapie

Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 9166
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I've got a straight razor I'll loan him.  _________________ Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
— Sir John Harrington |
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Lorianne_W
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2727
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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U.N. Climate Panel and Chief Face Credibility Siege
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/09/science/earth/09climate.html
The NYT apologize for him, etc.
I suppose its notable that they even acknowledged the scandal. _________________ I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. __ Michelangelo |
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plaasjaapie

Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 9166
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Did you notice how they didn't invite comments on this piece of crap?  _________________ Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
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Larry_Home
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 7315 Location: Harrisburg, PA USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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But wait! The "hockey stick" graph is back! New data found!
Source _________________ The future ain't what it used to be. (Yogi Berra) |
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Larry_Home
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 7315 Location: Harrisburg, PA USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Al Gore, back from the dead! Again!
In a NYT Op-Ed, he proves conclusively that skeptics are wrong and he, once again, as always, is right, no matter what.
You can't wish it away, he says; but he can wish it were so. _________________ The future ain't what it used to be. (Yogi Berra) |
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Lorianne_W
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2727
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CharlesWT
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 1741 Location: Plano, Texas
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:37 am Post subject: |
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More bad news today for the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), as another of its extravangant ecopocalypse predictions, sourced from green campaigners, has been confirmed as bunk by scientists.
The UN body came under attack earlier this year for suggesting that 40 per cent of the Amazonian rainforests - dubbed the "lungs of the planet" by some for their ability to turn CO2 into oxygen, and also seen as vital on biodiversity grounds - might disappear imminently. This disaster would be triggered, according to the IPCC's assessment, by a relatively slight drop in rainfall of the sort to be expected in a warming world.
Unfortunately it now appears that just such conditions have already occurred, and in fact the Amazonian jungles were unaffected.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the baseless IPCC projection originated in a study produced in 2000 by hard-green* ecological campaigning group WWF, which was also implicated in the IPCC's equally invalid prediction that the glaciers of the Himalayas will all have melted within a generation from now.
According to the WWF report (pdf), which was not subject to scientific peer review - it was written by a freelance journalist and published by WWF itself - drying-up of forests will lead to runaway wildfires that will destroy the jungle and perhaps the entire planetary ecosystem. The document is full of terrifying phrases such as "the year the world caught fire". It warns of imminent doom caused by drought cycles:
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IPCC Rainforest eco-tastrophe claim confirmed as bunk: Official UN website still shows it as fact, though |
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Lorianne_W
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2727
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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NYT: “U.S. Data Since 1895 Fail To Show Warming Trend”
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/9931
Global Saming ! _________________ I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. __ Michelangelo |
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Jethro Tull

Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 420
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Or maybe Global Shaming!  |
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